“wHeREvEr yOU Go!!!” Lmfndfjjsjd literally this happened like twice and the first time he was stopped before a lot of damage was done (I assume I mean they kinda glosses over that huh) anyways shut up odin all-bastard
As opposed to everywhere you go, Odin? As opposed to Thor? 🤔🤨
No. I’m sorry but this is absolutely not true. Thor never really protected Loki from anything or anyone. Thor spent the entirety of the first movie treating Loki like his personal servant- “Know your place, brother.” -Those are not the words of someone who views his brother as an equal or someone he’s protecting. He dragged Loki into Jotunheim (even if Loki DID bring the Jotnar into Asgard, Thor didn’t know it and Loki tried to talk him out of going).
In Avengers, Thor spent the entire time manhandling Loki and threatening him. NEVER ONCE did he ask Loki if HE NEEDED HELP. NOT. ONE. DAMN. TIME. The closest he came to asking what had happened was- “Who controls the would-be king?”
Then in TTDW, Loki was only allowed out of prison because Thor couldn’t do the job himself. And Thor never realized that the reason Loki faked his death was to get out of going back to the dungeons.
Thor doesn’t deserve Loki’s life. Loki deserves to have HIS OWN LIFE without the expectations and constraints that have been placed upon him for so long by Thor and Odin.
Fight me.
Fight us.
“No. I’m sorry but this is absolutely not true. Thor never really protected Loki from anything or anyone.”
THIS to infinity.
I would echo what @starrynightfantasies has said here. Thor showed no concern for Loki during the first Thor film, or during the first Avengers film, or even during The Dark World. Thor broke Loki out of prison out of self interest. He fully intended to put him right back in that cell, as soon as he no longer needed him.
I would argue that we don’t know why Loki faked his death -because we haven’t been told explicitly. Most likely because that was never the ending the writers intended for TDW, and it was only changed later on.
Loki is not indebted to anyone. If anything, Thor is indebted to him. Without Loki’s intervention at the end of Ragnarok, there would have been no survivors. Without Loki’s intervention at the end of TDW, Jane and possibly Thor, would both be dead.
These are lovely gifs though. So I don’t want you to think this is a commentary on your gif making skills.
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It’s worth noting too that on Jotunheim, Thor started the fight that put his friends in grave danger but it was Loki who then saved their lives.
Loki saved at least Sif and Fandral’s lives (I forget if there were any others, it’s been a while) but Thor was too busy claiming “glory” or some such shit to have his friend’s backs during the battle.
I just want to take a moment to appreciate that while Thor was fucking around like a bloodthirsty maniac, it was Loki who protected Thor’s friends and made sure everyone got out of there alive.
//There’s just been a lot of buzz surrounding his handling of Thor’s characterization in Ragnarok, and the way he sort of ditched his closeness with Tom during filming in order to ass-kiss T/aik.a W.ai//tit/i which in some ways seemed quite natural (New Zealand and Australia sharing certain cultural affinities, for instance, and their similar quirky sense of humor) but in other respects came across very much as years of sour-grapes bitterness that Tom and Loki continually steal the show and the fans away from Thor. Which explicitly, as Chris has outright said ( “we’re leading it in a new direction” and all kinds of glossed up excuses), led to Chris ACTIVELY ASKING TAIKA to dumb Loki down, rather than rendering Thor a stronger, more complex protagonist. There are also interview quotes that other blogs have dissected that seem pretty aggressive, and also comments from Tom fans that are more diligent than I, that Tom has shown marked coolness toward Chris since Ragnarok (nothing overtly unfriendly, he’s still quite cordial, but there’s no more “brother from another mother” or running up and touching Elsa’s pregnant belly and being “uncle Tom” to their kids kinda stuff).
And yeah, it is sad. I honestly thought Chris was self confident enough not to fall for the jealous rivalry trap. I’ve been in Tom’s position before and it’s impossible to navigate that terrain without feeling hurt.
Which is kind of one reason why I’m super smug that Tom ended up getting his own eight-episode show, LMAO. He’s never said or done anything unkind at or about any of his colleagues, and still, he has quietly succeeded. ❤
I don’t understand why people assume Loki stripped Odin of his powers. Odin says he broke Loki’s spell. What did he break it with if not his own magic? The power of a senior bingo night win? Pudding? His new friend Martha’s dentures? The weight of the enormous expense senior care in the United States is?
And then he just dicks about on Midgard, waiting to die, instead of utilizing Strange’s magic or his own to go back to Asgard. Strange literally says that he chose to stay put. CHOSE. That’s… not on Loki. Why do people continue to say Loki’s in any way at fault for Ragnarok? *buries head in hands*
It is from Thor’s line where he accuses Loki of stripping Odin’s power. Now that doesn’t just mean magical power. But his power as King of the 9 realms. The power that comes from him being king. Because Loki did take that power for himself.
Now of course Odin was able to eventually fight Loki’s spell with his own magicalliness. I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying that yes Loki took Odin’s kingly ruling power. ETC.
Yes, that’s true, Loki took Odin’s political authority over the realms, and he possessed Gungnir, all Odin’s stolen relics, and Odin’s armies. In that sense he did usurp some of Odin’s power. However, I was more disputing the idea that Loki’s responsible for Odin’s death, Hela’s return, the subsequent atrocities Hela committed, and Asgard’s destruction (beyond in the literal sense that he placed Surtur’s skull in the Eternal Flame), rather than claiming Loki did nothing to Odin. In other words, that Loki took Odin’s magic, and therefore caused the events of the film. I take issue with people selectively deciding that whatever Loki did must have made Odin deteriorate rapidly (by turning him human), and the further implication that if Odin had a bit more time he’d have been proactive about preparing for Hela, when that’s obviously not the case because he decides to wait for Thor and Loki to find him and tells Strange he’s just going to hang out. It’s evident that many of Odin’s powers remain firmly in his possession (for instance, he’s still holding Hela at bay during his time on Midgard), so he cannot be human, and that he has every opportunity to do something besides wait. But he does nothing.
There’s plenty people can condemn Loki for. I don’t understand why he’s got to be responsible for Odin and Hela’s bad choices/crimes, too. Thor does blame him for it all in a moment where he’s very upset, and that’s completely understandable. I just wish people didn’t take it as gospel when it’s not accurate given the information we have (and I wish that the film let Loki challenge Thor’s statements or, at least, express obvious exasperation).
I just want to reblog this with @foundlingmother’s tags, because the comparison they make to Thor’s accidental culpability for the events of TDW is… a really good point, actually.
I don’t understand why people assume Loki stripped Odin of his powers. Odin says he broke Loki’s spell. What did he break it with if not his own magic? The power of a senior bingo night win? Pudding? His new friend Martha’s dentures? The weight of the enormous expense senior care in the United States is?
And then he just dicks about on Midgard, waiting to die, instead of utilizing Strange’s magic or his own to go back to Asgard. Strange literally says that he chose to stay put. CHOSE. That’s… not on Loki. Why do people continue to say Loki’s in any way at fault for Ragnarok? *buries head in hands*
It is from Thor’s line where he accuses Loki of stripping Odin’s power. Now that doesn’t just mean magical power. But his power as King of the 9 realms. The power that comes from him being king. Because Loki did take that power for himself.
Now of course Odin was able to eventually fight Loki’s spell with his own magicalliness. I’m not disputing that. I’m just saying that yes Loki took Odin’s kingly ruling power. ETC.
Yes, that’s true, Loki took Odin’s political authority over the realms, and he possessed Gungnir, all Odin’s stolen relics, and Odin’s armies. In that sense he did usurp some of Odin’s power. However, I was more disputing the idea that Loki’s responsible for Odin’s death, Hela’s return, the subsequent atrocities Hela committed, and Asgard’s destruction (beyond in the literal sense that he placed Surtur’s skull in the Eternal Flame), rather than claiming Loki did nothing to Odin. In other words, that Loki took Odin’s magic, and therefore caused the events of the film. I take issue with people selectively deciding that whatever Loki did must have made Odin deteriorate rapidly (by turning him human), and the further implication that if Odin had a bit more time he’d have been proactive about preparing for Hela, when that’s obviously not the case because he decides to wait for Thor and Loki to find him and tells Strange he’s just going to hang out. It’s evident that many of Odin’s powers remain firmly in his possession (for instance, he’s still holding Hela at bay during his time on Midgard), so he cannot be human, and that he has every opportunity to do something besides wait. But he does nothing.
There’s plenty people can condemn Loki for. I don’t understand why he’s got to be responsible for Odin and Hela’s bad choices/crimes, too. Thor does blame him for it all in a moment where he’s very upset, and that’s completely understandable. I just wish people didn’t take it as gospel when it’s not accurate given the information we have (and I wish that the film let Loki challenge Thor’s statements or, at least, express obvious exasperation).
are you loki, god of knives? 🗡🙄 
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