They did because these make Loki lesser devil and enjoyable than the plain villan Marvel wanted.
Itβs like censoring a personβs life. These events actually occurred, they were lived (by Lokiβ Tom), ALL OF THE ABOVE still coincide perfectly within the canon, but were deleted to decrease sympathy. ARGHH!
Iβm still dreaming of directorβs cuts some dayβ¦
la la la this all happened la la la you canβt change my mind la la la
Please all the gods in every universe, let them give us directors cuts of every thor/avengers movie so we can enjoy the full Loki experience.
I legitimately canβt watch these movies without watching the deleted scenes first, because they provide so fucking much necessary context for Lokiβs character and his actions and itβs absolutely insane that they were cut out of the movie. Especially the deleted scenes from Thor (2011).
Tom Hiddleston in βThe Avengersβ, (2012). Dir. Joss Whedon.
Let me hug you.
You know? This gets downplayed a lot after what happened in Thor 1 and Thor himself sayingΒ βsomethingsomething Imagined slightsβ in Avengers.
Loki isnβt lying here, heβs not imagining anything.
HE WAS THE RIGHTFUL KING OF ASGARD AND HE WAS BETRAYED.
Odin fell into Odinsleepβ’
, Thor was banished. The line of succession FELL ON HIM. We see the soldiers giving him Gungnir and Frigga approving it.
For a very short period of time, Loki was King, until Thorβs fanclub (with the help of Heimdall) betrayed Loki and the throne, with no other motive than they liked Thor better.
Louder for the people in the back! Also makes sense why Heimdall took off while Loki was king in Ragnarok. He did betray him!
Heimdall was really bad at his job. If he worked for me I would have fired him too!
Me, about every single deleted Loki scene in every single Thor/Avengers film: WHY THE FUCK WASNβT THIS IN THE MOVIE ITβS THE BEST DAMN SCENE THAT EVER EXISTED!!!
Tom, what were you and Natalie planning with these two characters?
Yeah, I concur with you @sir-quack-alot Which is even more beautiful in my opinion cause he doesnβt necessarily have strong feeling towards her but heβll still do what he can for her and Thor.Β
I agree with @sir-quack-alot and @asgardiankingofmischief as well. I never saw this as any romantic/sexual chemistry between Loki and Jane. I viewed it much more as he knows his brother cares for her deeply, and so heβs willing to literally put his life on the line to protect her.
And the fact that he did this just after having warned Thor not to get too attachedβ¦ you know, his whole,Β βToday, a thousand yearsβ¦ itβs nothing, itβs a heartbeatβ speech. (In fact, I find that bit of dialogue interesting for so many different reasons, but thatβs for another post). Anyway, my point is, he puts aside whatever personal feelings he might have about the impracticality of their relationship and doesnβt even hesitate to defend herβmultiple timesβwith his life. I think thatβs entirely because he loves Thor, and has little if anything to do with Jane.
And then of course, like so many other things, Thor: Ragnarok came along and fucked that over good.Β π
Yes! Good point, @nikkoliferous Wow, that line makes this 1000x better. Itβs funny cause I feel like Avengers Loki (you know the one where heβs clearly out of his mind) would leave her to fend for herself. And not show any care but like literally any Loki after or before wouldnβt do that.
Some vague examples:
Thor (2011) : On Jotunheim, he puts the Warriors Three and Sifβs safety before everything else, even Thorβs ambitions.
Thor: The Dark World : As mentioned, he protects Jane first even when he doesnβt necessarily need to. (They already got the Aether out and he wanted Malekith dead more than anything)
Thor: Ragnarok (I know I hate it too) : Even here, we see Loki come back for the Asgardians and lead them to safety, before that in the beginning of the movie, Loki tries to take Hela out in the Bifrost/Rainbow bridge so both he and Thor can escape but also keep her from Asgard.
Infinity War: Literally sacrifices the space stone so his brother could live.
And the worst part about this is? Everyone keeps treating him like heβs Avengers Loki regardless of the circumstances at the time.
Ehhhhh, Iβm iffy on the Hela-Ragnarok one because calling for the Bifrost at that moment, to begin with, was about as out of character as you could possibly get.Β π So I kind of prefer to just forget that ever even happened. Lol
But yeah, aside from Avengers (where he clearly wasnβt even fully in control of his own mind), his actionsacross the franchise as a whole donβt really support the wholeΒ βLoki is a narcissistβ narrative that exists? We donβt count the play and the statue of himself in Ragnarok because 1) that was bad writing, not bad characterization and 2) he likes to pretendΒ like heβs unaffected and self-centred (which is a defense mechanism) but if you solely analyzeΒ his behaviour–or hell, even just his body language–the idea that he only cares about himself is nearly laughable.
I suppose you could maybe make an argument for post-identity crisis Thor (2011) Loki. Maybe. But even then, he may not be being controlled by an external force, but he is essentially having a psychotic break, so… honestly itβs not a significantly different circumstance.
And hell. Even Avengers!Loki has rare moments of clarity where you can plainly see that he doesnβt want any of whatβs happening. Right before he stabs Thor, for instance, he looks around and his face has legit panic and horror written on it. Which is sort of foreshadowed by Coulsonβs βyou lack convictionβ line.
So hey, you know, I just want to put it out there that Ragnarok!Thor is actually not even equally bad but is a worse person than any not-minded-controlled Loki is. Because under any normal circumstance, I canβt fathom Loki electrocuting Thor and then stand over him gloating while Thor writhes in agony (literal description straight from the script).
Let me show you how to ruin something that was supposed to be funny.
Can also we talk about how insanely misleading Natβs statement here is? She makes it sound like he killed 80 innocent civilians? At least thatβs how it comes off to me. But anyone who actually watched the movie knows that the majorityβif not allβof the people Loki killed by this point were S.H.I.E.L.D. agents who were also trying to kill him. Iβm not saying their lives donβt matter, butβ¦ these movies clearly set up a narrative where some lives matter more than others. So at least fucking be consistent about it, Marvel.
As a passing comment, itβs amusingβ¦maybe. Like, if you never actually watched the Thor movie. But it really isnβt. Because this is the first time we hear Thor acknowledge his brotherβs horribly painful discovery. Actually, itβs the ONLY time. Which really sucks, if you think about it. And itβs unclear whether he is attempting to sever himself from Loki because heβs disappointed that he only killed 80 people, or because he is embarrassed that he is acting so foolishly in a foreign realm.
And yes to Natashaβs statement being misleading. Loki killed a handful of people in cold blood upon his arrival to the base. The rest he killed when they were attacking himβ¦or they were killed by the base collapsing and not by Lokiβs own hand. Oh yeah, and what was it Natasha did for a living, before coming to work for S.H.I.E.L.D? Someone remind me. I forget. It starts with an A and it isnβt Avenger. But sheβs a hero, right? So, itβs okay.
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