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iamanartichoke:

maneth985:

fluturojdallandyshia:

Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

I stared at these waaaayyyy too long

I’ve never seen this scene from this angle before and dear lord, look how in-character Loki is! The way he meets the Grandmaster’s stare directly, his own face revealing nothing but possibly wariness; he doesn’t look afraid, but he does look a little unnerved, and yet he’s defiant at the same time. 

He holds his chin high and his shoulders straight; everything about his posture and facial expression screams total control – he’s maintaining the illusion of still being in control, still having the Grandmaster’s favor, still confident that whatever he’s done to displease the Grandmaster can be repaired. 

And yet in the bottom gif, you can see his right hand starting to curl just a little, as if he’s about to fidget. That little tell of his, revealing just how nervous and apprehensive he really is. Deep down, he knows he’s lost his place in the Grandmaster’s favor, that he probably lost it as soon as Thor showed up, and everything he’s spent the last several weeks trying to cultivate has just gone up in smoke. 

He’s nervous and he’s a little scared and he’s also furious at Thor and probably irritated with being lumped in with Valkyrie and his body language shows all of this at the same time it shows none of this. Fucking kudos, Tom Hiddleston. Every time I think I can’t be any more impressed with your performance as Loki, I’m wrong. Also, bless these gifs, and bless Loki in general. 

Two things about this post

  1. Thor: Ragnarok was a superficial, hot fucking mess, and still Tom Hiddleston was able to put this much depth into his portrayal of Loki. Fucking kudos to how indescribably talented this man is and how incredibly lucky we are that he landed the role of Loki. I literally can’t even imagine anyone else as our beloved trickster.
  2. I fucking love how much this fandom studies and analyzes every minute detail of every scene Loki appears in. Like, y’all are just fantastic and I love this community so much I could cry. 💚
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dearlokigodofmischief:

loki-god-of-menace:

eric-coldfire:

When you’re confused because you’re a villain whose attempted mass genocide twice but people are still trying to say you’re “good”.

When your confused because Loki is being called a villain when he hasn’t occupied that role except for once in Avengers and he attempted genocide only once on a nation Asgard was at war with using tactics not out of custom for the Aesir or estranged from their (decidedly wrong, but still present) morality.( See Bor’s seeming wiping out of all the Dark Elves i.e. “he killed them all” and Odin/Hela’s evident history of drowning nations in blood, as well as Thor’s “When I’m king, I’ll hunt the monster’s down and slay them all”, “Father, let’s finish them together!”)

So yeah. Unless you call attempting to rule Midgard a mass genocide, at which point an explanation on he intended to rule corpses should most likely be provided and the embarrassing body count of only 74 should probably be addressed.

Loki has done morally condemnable and wrong things, but he is not a villain in any traditional sense of the word, and has a body count comparable to beloved heroes (Thor, who mass murdered 145 Jotun in ten minutes because he was insulted).

This sort of thing really bothers me, to be quite honest. 

It’s like people aren’t even paying attention to Loki’s story arc because he happened to be built up as an antagonist in Thor and showed up as the villain in The Avengers.

As if… villains can’t have redemptions?

A villain with a redemption arc? Wow. Who would have thought that was possible, am I right?

Yes, Loki tried to commit genocide of the Frost Giants in Thor, but that was after Thor tried to do the exact same thing and succeeded in killing over one hundred of them. Not to mention, it’s a very common trait for Aesir royals to destroy their enemies totally and thoroughly. Odin’s father was confirmed of committing such a crime and so was Odin. Thor and Loki both attempted it once and failed. 

Loki’s motives and methods were questionable since Thor was banished for the very same act that Loki later tried to commit, but he just found out that he was a Jotun. He just found out that his entire life was a lie. He just found out that he is a member of a species that is openly despised by the people who raised him. He just found out that the people who were supposed to love him taught him to hate and fear what he was. He just found out that he was a monster, and in desperately attempting to prove that he wasn’t, he stumbled and became what he was most afraid of, which eventually led to a suicide attempt and a downhill spiral that led him straight into The Avengers. Was Loki right? No. Was Loki just? No. Did Loki have the motivation? Yes. Did he do something that Thor also did and technically succeeded at better than Loki did? Yes. 

So, if Thor is redeemable in any way, why isn’t Loki? As a matter of fact, if the only criteria for always being a villain is doing bad things in one’s lifetime, then a lot of the Avengers we call heroes today should never have become heroes in the first place. 

Yes, Loki was a villain in The Avengers. He did horrible, despicable things in The Avengers, but since then, his story arc has taken a new direction. In The Avengers, Loki wasn’t trying to commit genocide. He was attempting to take control of Midgard to rule it. Wouldn’t be much to rule if he simply killed all of the humans on the planet, would it? And guess what? He was working for someone else! Aka–Thanos. We actively see Thanos’ minions threatening Loki if he fails. While the movie doesn’t dive into the exact relationship between Loki and Thanos, it’s safe to say that showing up on Midgard with the scepter and an army probably wasn’t Loki’s idea. Since Thanos is the “ultimate bad” that MCU has been leading up to, chances are, the plan was probably Thanos’ idea and he took whatever means necessary to achieve it. Loki was the most detached from himself in The Avengers. He physically looked ill the entire movie and seemed the least genuine out of every other appearance he’s made. There’s plenty of subtext there to insist that Loki’s endured something terrible and isn’t on Midgard because he wholeheartedly wants to be there. 

Does that make Loki’s actions okay? Of course not. Does that mean he was justified? No. Does that mean he’s committed some pretty awful crimes? Yep, it does, but does that make him unable to shift the direction his life is taking afterward? No. Redemption arcs have always and will always be a thing for heroes, villains, anti-heroes and just about any other type of character that’s fucked up in their lifetime. 

In Thor The Dark World, Loki is the only reason that they’re able to get the Dark Elves away from Asgard. If Loki didn’t work with Thor, Asgard likely would have been destroyed. Loki fights alongside Thor to defend Asgard and he actively saves both Thor and Jane from harm and even death. Protecting Thor nearly cost him his life. Did he use his new position to gain some sort of advancement for himself at the end of the movie by taking the throne for himself? Yep, but Loki’s a chaotic neutral character by definition. He will almost always do what will benefit him the most if there are no other factors pushing him in one direction or the other. But Loki didn’t kill Odin, even though he had all of the motives in the world to do so. 

His redemption arc only continues in Thor Ragnarok, because without Loki, the Aesir race would have gone extinct. He was the one who brought the ship to Asgard and boarded the surviving Asgardians onto it. He was the one who ignited Ragnarok in order to defeat and kill Hela. He was the reason that the survivors were able to escape and maybe preserve their way of life.

Loki’s made a solid transition from being an antagonist to a villain (it’s important to keep in mind that “antagonist” and “villain” are not synonyms. You can be an antagonist without being a villain) to something that resembles an anti-hero. Loki may not go about doing good deeds in a stereotypical sense of saying, “look at me, look at me, I’m good now,” and, instead, does them in his own way, but insisting that Loki is still actively playing the role of a villain is grossly exaggerated. That’s not the current direction his story is taking. You can’t disregard character development for the sake of saying, “he did bad shit, so he’s still a bad guy.” As I already said, if that’s the logic we’re using, most of our heroes shouldn’t be heroes at all.

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whitedaydream:

ask-frostiron:

catwinchester:

lokiloveforever:

juliabohemian:

lasimo74allmyworld:

starrynightfantasies:

marvelmarbler:

Goodbye brother.

No. I’m sorry but this is absolutely not true. Thor never really protected Loki from anything or anyone. Thor spent the entirety of the first movie treating Loki like his personal servant- “Know your place, brother.” -Those are not the words of someone who views his brother as an equal or someone he’s protecting. He dragged Loki into Jotunheim (even if Loki DID bring the Jotnar into Asgard, Thor didn’t know it and Loki tried to talk him out of going).

In Avengers, Thor spent the entire time manhandling Loki and threatening him. NEVER ONCE did he ask Loki if HE NEEDED HELP. NOT. ONE. DAMN. TIME. The closest he came to asking what had happened was- “Who controls the would-be king?”

Then in TTDW, Loki was only allowed out of prison because Thor couldn’t do the job himself. And Thor never realized that the reason Loki faked his death was to get out of going back to the dungeons.

Thor doesn’t deserve Loki’s life. Loki deserves to have HIS OWN LIFE without the expectations and constraints that have been placed upon him for so long by Thor and Odin.

Fight me.

Fight us.

“No. I’m sorry but this is absolutely not true. Thor never really protected Loki from anything or anyone.”

THIS to infinity.

I would echo what @starrynightfantasies has said here. Thor showed no concern for Loki during the first Thor film, or during the first Avengers film, or even during The Dark World. Thor broke Loki out of prison out of self interest. He fully intended to put him right back in that cell, as soon as he no longer needed him. 

I would argue that we don’t know why Loki faked his death -because we haven’t been told explicitly. Most likely because that was never the ending the writers intended for TDW, and it was only changed later on.

Loki is not indebted to anyone. If anything, Thor is indebted to him. Without Loki’s intervention at the end of Ragnarok, there would have been no survivors. Without Loki’s intervention at the end of TDW, Jane and possibly Thor, would both be dead.

These are lovely gifs though. So I don’t want you to think this is a commentary on your gif making skills. 

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It’s worth noting too that on Jotunheim, Thor started the fight that put his friends in grave danger but it was Loki who then saved their lives.

Loki saved at least Sif and Fandral’s lives (I forget if there were any others, it’s been a while) but Thor was too busy claiming “glory” or some such shit to have his friend’s backs during the battle.

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Loki is the protective brother. Thor? Never.

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mastreworld:

loki-freyjason:

cosmicjoke:

littlefanthing:

cosmicjoke:

One of the lines in “Thor: The Dark World” that gets overlooked, I think (possibly because Marvel cut it from the final edit) was when Thor is talking to Frigga about Loki, and she says to him that he and Odin always shone so brightly, it was hard for Loki to find any sun for himself, or something to that effect.

Anyway, this is such a massively important line, because it basically tells us EVERYTHING about Loki’s childhood, and how he felt.  And here again is yet another example of how absolutely WRONG Taika Waitit’s view of these characters was, given what I heard about him wanting to include a flashback in Ragnarok showing Thor as a sensitive and bullied child, and Loki as dark and mean.  That would have been in DIRECT conflict with everything we know about these characters, just like everything else in Ragnarok is.

From what Frigga says to Thor, it’s plain as day that Loki as a child was always struggling just to catch up to Thor, to try and be equal to him, not just in Odin’s and Frigga’s eyes, but in the eyes of probably the entire kingdom.  It tells us that Thor, as a boy, was as popular and well liked, as charming and charismatic and as easy to make friends as he is as an adult, and that Loki was very much the introvert, quiet, awkward and isolated.  And from Loki’s desperation to win Odin’s approval in the first Thor film, I think it becomes apparent that that desperation grew directly from his feeling inadequate and lesser to the standard of both his father and his big brother growing up.  And it’s just so unbelievably sad, to envision that.  To envision Loki constantly struggling, trying to match Thor, trying to make himself seem as good as Thor for Odin, trying to make himself seem like a “true and worthy son”, as he says in the first film.  How anyone could miss this about his character is beyond me, unless they’re being willfully obtuse.  

And we see from this one line, that Loki’s entire motivation is based on a feeling of lack on his own part.  He feels like he’s less.  He feels like he isn’t as good as Thor, and that Odin must not love him because he’s not as good as Thor, and until he discovers he’s a Jotun, he doesn’t know why, and he can’t figure it out, and he keeps trying and trying to do the right thing to somehow make him, in his father’s eyes, Thor’s equal.  Think of the kind of psychological effect that would have on a person, especially a young man growing up in the kind of culture Loki did.  Think of the burden of constantly feeling like there’s something WRONG with you, because you’re constantly measuring yourself against the perfection of an older sibling who everyone loves, while everyone treats you like you’re strange, and even are at times outwardly hostile and cruel to you.  Think of the weight of trying to figure out how to change yourself so that others will treat you like they treat your perfect older sibling, but not being able to, because you don’t really know what it is about you that makes everyone dislike or hate you in the first place.  And then think of what it must have been like, to discover you’re from a race of beings who the people you’ve grown up around consider to be monsters, who are those people’s mortal enemies, and coming to the swift and awful realization that that must have been it all along.  That THAT’S what was wrong with you.  That that’s why you’ve always been an outcast.

I just think that one moment from The Dark World was so important for understanding Loki’s character.

And yet, once again, Marvel proves it’s own stupidity by cutting it out.  Just like they cut out so many scenes from the first Thor film which showed Loki in a more sympathetic light.  Gee, it’s almost like they didn’t want people feeling for him.  Too bad they ended up doing so anyway.

Yeah, Taika is clearly biased against Loki, for whatever reason. Logic suggests that an anti-imperialist poc would identify with Loki’s character and his storyline, but Taika seems to have rejected him in favor of Thor. I can’t understand it at all. Can anyone think of a plausible explanation.

Well definitely Taika favors Thor, and what I think it really comes down to is, he favors Chris Hemsworth over Tom Hiddleston.  Tom is a total professional actor and he takes his craft seriously.  I don’t get that impression with Chris.  Chris seems to have more or less given up trying to be a serious actor, taking on one comedic role after another, probably because all his attempts at serious drama got panned by the critics.  And Chris has a goofy kind of personality with a goofy sense of humor, and for whatever reason, that appealed to Takia Waititi and they hit it off.  You get the definite impression that wasn’t the case with Tom.  Every interview with Tom done during Ragnarok’s promotion, he talks about how well Takia and Chris got along, and you just get the sense from it that Tom was very much the outsider to their little party.  Takia is also one of those directors that HAS to put himself in his own films, which smacks of a massive ego problem.  He isn’t satisfied with being behind the scenes.  He wants to be the star too.  Which tells me he doesn’t appreciate actors or understand what it takes to BE an actor.  He’s one of these people, it seems to me, that thinks anyone can do it.  But no, it takes a LOT of talent to be a good actor.  It’s an actual art.  I just don’t think Tom was able to relate at all to what seemed like the idiotic atmosphere on the set of Ragnarok, and I also get the sense that Taika Waititi aggressively shut Tom out of any collaboration regarding Loki’s character, for example Tom’s saying how he was trying to give Matt Daemon (Chris Hemsworth’s friend, by the way) lines that Loki would say, and Taika Waititi just kept telling him no, and giving his own lines, as if he knew better what Loki would say than Tom.   He basically steam rolled him.  Tom’s a sophisticated, very intelligent and high class man, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that irritated and intimidated a low class shill like Waititi.  

wanting to include a flashback
in Ragnarok showing Thor as a sensitive and bullied child, and Loki
as dark and mean

I’m
sorry – what??  What
in any of the previous films could possibly suggest that??  Did TW
even watch them?

@littlefanthing @cosmicjoke I think a big part of why TW (and many fans) favours
Thor is that he has a more friendly, approachable demeanour.  It’s
something I’ve been thinking a lot about recently – how we react to
people & interpret their actions is largely based on that, rather
than their actual personality/self.  Acting in a friendly manner
doesn’t necessarily mean you’re a really accepting, caring, welcoming
person, but we often react to surface impressions of the person, so I
think that’s part of why people interpret Thor that way.  (Also
because he’s the protagonist, but that’s obvious.)

Watiti admitted openly that he hadn’t seen the first two movies before accepting to work on the third one and in my eyes, that’s a warning sign of unprofessionalism. He did eventually watch them, but I somehow get a feeling he did so with a finger on the fast-forward button since he managed to so massively misunderstand them. Or perhaps he just didn’t care.

He’s also been openly saying things like “This is Thor 1 for me.” and “I’m going to respectfully disrespect everything you liked about the other movies.” (paraphrasing the wording here, since I don’t have time to look up the exact quotes).

He got away with it because the movie made a good profit and well, everybody kneels for a dick that squirts money.

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leanmeanand-green:

mastreworld:

shine-of-asgard:

donthaveaplacethendumpithere:

lucianalight:

This is another one of beautiful shots of Thor 1 that conveys a genius symbolism. Here’s Odin who pitted his children against each other for the throne and his unfair treatment of them set the brothers apart. And he is standing on a broken bridge. The bridge that was broken as the result of the brother’s conflict over the throne, over gaining Odin’s approval, over being worthy. The broken bridge of the brother’s relationship. The conflict that he fueled drove his children, literally and also figuratively on the verge of falling down into an abyss. The brothers are holding to the Gungnir, the symbol of the throne. Their hands are close to each other but the Gungnir, the throne has kept them apart. A symbol of how the throne and their rivalry for it, came between them and set them apart. And Odin, the real reason for the destruction of his family, is standing safely on the broken bridge, and he is holding Thor, his favorite son, by the ankle, while Loki is the farthest to him in this chain. A symbol of how his lies and his treatment of Loki, drove away Loki more than Thor and how in the end, they pushed Loki away, just like Odin’s “No Loki”. And as Odin had favored Thor and alienated Loki in all the years, here he held on to Thor and pushed Loki away and left him to fall in the abyss.

Be honest, if your son, even if adopted, tried to commit mass genocide of an entire planet all in the name of approval, would you say “Yes Loki” to them? Yes I’m aware that Odin fucked up when it came to raising them and was so evident in his favor for Thor, but I feel like the “No Loki” has been made into some twisted lame “I don’t love you Loki”.

When Thor went to Jotunhiem and nearly started a war, Odin punished him to teach him a lesson, sending him to live among mortals so he would humble himself. This was to show that he did not approve of Thor’s actions to seek war and bloodshed. Just the same, when Loki attempt to not only seek war but murder an entire fucking planet, Odin told him no.

“I could have done it! For you! For all of us…”

Odin’s response of “No Loki” is far from “I don’t love you.” Or “Your such a fucking disappointment.” His response was of a parent trying to correct the mistake their child made.

Did Odin fuck up in the end? Yes. Was he not the best at parenting? Absolutely. But he was far from heartless towards his son. Just go back and watch that scene, look at Odin’s expression and tell me that he was not saddened when Loki let go. Because that was pure regret if I ever saw it.

I can with complete honesty assure you (as an actual parent) that if I saw my son (or any other person at all for that matter) hanging over an abyss I would use softest language and not- threatening body movements to approach them, hold them in an iron grip and pull them to safety. It’s not rocket science. It’s not a teaching of some first aid course. It’s what any human with empathy would do, spontaneously, instinctively, when faced with such a situation. You don’t “correct a mistake a child made” while the child is hanging over the abyss due to said mistake. That idea borders on sociopathy for me, to be honest.

Do you see people like “No, your life isn’t as bad as you think, get over it and get off that bridge/ledger/whatever other place the person is standing on to jump to their death? No. They bring in specialists to try and help them, they try to prevent them from taking their own life. You don’t talk that way to someone who is on the verge of ending it all. Odin could have said sooooooo much more in that moment, Loki was desperate for affection and love in that instant, I think he would have listened. Odin could have prevented him from letting go, he could have prevented him from falling into Thanos’s hands. You don’t try to reason with someone during a moment like that, you try to understand and comfort them, no matter what their reason for being there is.

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juliabohemian:

fluturojdallandyshia:

The Avengers (2012)

See, I DID notice he was crying. Even when I watched it in the theater. And I took this as a demonstration of some measure of regret. But why did he not act on that regret?

As far as the possible reasons, here are a few from my headcanon, listed from most to least likely:

1. Loki mistook Thor’s apparent compassion for an attempt at manipulation. 

2. Loki feared that allowing Thor to help him would expose him as weak and that it would just be another opportunity for Thor to demonstrate his superiority. 

3. Loki feared what Thanos may do to him if he did not carry out his orders. 

4. Loki thought that Thor was attempting to thwart his attempt to rule over Earth in order to rob him of that glory. 

5. Loki wanted to tell Thor about Thanos. But he didn’t think Thor would believe him.

6. Loki wanted to tell Thor about Thanos. But he was worried that Thor would not care.

7. Loki was afraid that because of what happened with the Bifrost, going “home again” was not an option, regardless of what Thor might have to say about it. 

8. Loki knew the Other was listening and didn’t feel safe acting on his urge to accept Thor’s offer.

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lucianalight:

donthaveaplacethendumpithere:

lucianalight:

This is another one of beautiful shots of Thor 1 that conveys a genius symbolism. Here’s Odin who pitted his children against each other for the throne and his unfair treatment of them set the brothers apart. And he is standing on a broken bridge. The bridge that was broken as the result of the brother’s conflict over the throne, over gaining Odin’s approval, over being worthy. The broken bridge of the brother’s relationship. The conflict that he fueled drove his children, literally and also figuratively on the verge of falling down into an abyss. The brothers are holding to the Gungnir, the symbol of the throne. Their hands are close to each other but the Gungnir, the throne has kept them apart. A symbol of how the throne and their rivalry for it, came between them and set them apart. And Odin, the real reason for the destruction of his family, is standing safely on the broken bridge, and he is holding Thor, his favorite son, by the ankle, while Loki is the farthest to him in this chain. A symbol of how his lies and his treatment of Loki, drove away Loki more than Thor and how in the end, they pushed Loki away, just like Odin’s “No Loki”. And as Odin had favored Thor and alienated Loki in all the years, here he held on to Thor and pushed Loki away and left him to fall in the abyss.

Be honest, if your son, even if adopted, tried to commit mass genocide of an entire planet all in the name of approval, would you say “Yes Loki” to them? Yes I’m aware that Odin fucked up when it came to raising them and was so evident in his favor for Thor, but I feel like the “No Loki” has been made into some twisted lame “I don’t love you Loki”.

When Thor went to Jotunhiem and nearly started a war, Odin punished him to teach him a lesson, sending him to live among mortals so he would humble himself. This was to show that he did not approve of Thor’s actions to seek war and bloodshed. Just the same, when Loki attempt to not only seek war but murder an entire fucking planet, Odin told him no.

“I could have done it! For you! For all of us…”

Odin’s response of “No Loki” is far from “I don’t love you.” Or “Your such a fucking disappointment.” His response was of a parent trying to correct the mistake their child made.

Did Odin fuck up in the end? Yes. Was he not the best at parenting? Absolutely. But he was far from heartless towards his son. Just go back and watch that scene, look at Odin’s expression and tell me that he was not saddened when Loki let go. Because that was pure regret if I ever saw it.

Honestly? In a situation like this, the first thing I would do, is using both of my hands to pull my children to safety first, rather than staying there and staring down at them when they are both hanging on the edge of an abyss and about to falling to their deaths. And if I see my child is in so much distress, and it seems like they are not mentally stable at the moment that the first thing they say when they are so much close to death, is desperately seeking my approval, I would say sth to calm them down, not a refusal, and not an approval, sth neutral like “I know”, because that’s not the right time to correct their mistakes. Also if my child, actually both of my children, think that committing genocide is what I want them to do and earns my approval, then I think that’s definitely because I as a parent made huge mistakes in teaching them what is right and what is wrong. Their mistake is on me.

Thor, before his banishment had no problem with committing genocide. He screamed
“We’ll finish them together father!”

and killed so many Jotuns just because he was called a princess and would murder them all if Odin agreed with him. He didn’t nearly start a war. He started the war. Odin asked Laufey to ignore Thor’s actions and Laufey didn’t accept and stated that they are going to get what they seek, war. Loki wanted to finish that war. Why Loki thought committing genocide would gain him Odin’s approval? Why Thor thought Odin would  help him finish Jotuns? Because Asgardians are racist toward Jotuns. Because Thor and Loki were taught their entire life that Jotuns are nothing more than monsters. Loki’s heritage was such a huge deal that according to Odin he had to be protected from the truth! Then Loki learned that he was supposed to be used as a political pawn to bring permanent peace with Jotunheim, a permanent peace that would nullify Jotunheim’s danger forever. So since Odin’s plans for him no longer mattered, he wanted to show that he is not useless. That he can do what Odin wanted to use him for, and eliminate Jotunheim’s danger. So yes, he though using a way to kill all the monster without any casualty to Asgardians would make Odin happy. Because Odin never actually condemned Thor for killing Jotuns. And by killing Jotuns Loki could also prove that he is loyal to Asgard and he is an Odinson. To Loki who thought he wasn’t worthy and less loved and ignored because of his race, that “No Loki” was the last straw. That “No” meant no matter what he did, he could never be worthy in the eye of Odin, no matter how he tried, what he was going to see was only disappointment from Odin. To Loki that “No” meant “I don’t love you”, “You are not worthy”, “You are not enough and you are never going to enough”. If it wasn’t it wouldn’t drove Loki to commit suicide. I never said Odin was heartless but he was a terrible parent. A terrible parent who pitted his children against each other for the throne since they were very young, who favored one son, lied to his adopted son about his heritage and raised him with racist beliefs about his own race and made him feel unloved and unworthy. He was saddened and regretted that his actions drove his son to commit suicide? He sure showed it next time by “Your birthright was to die” and “Frigga is the only reason you are still alive.”

Reminder

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lokilover9:

sevensamurai1951:

shine-of-asgard:

juliabohemian:

theadoptedprince:

As king, whilst pretending to be Odin, Loki did the following:

  • Pardoned Thor, Sif, and the Warriors Three of their treason
  • Treated Thor as Loki himself had never been treated by their Father
  • Separated the two Infinity Stones in Asgardian protection, and gave one to another powerful being, for the sake of preventing both from being found at once or from making Asgard a higher priority target 
  • Removed Asgardian troops from the rest of the Nine and kept them on Asgard, where the Space Stone was being kept and therefore where they were most needed, whilst also creating a time of peace for Asgard
  • Pushed Asgard toward entertainments (theatre) that aren’t violent
  • Rebranded himself as a hero rather than just allowing his identity as the Jotun Prince become all that would be remembered

And that’s just what was shown.

Agree with everything on this list. If only the franchise had framed it that way.

In a supposedly anticolonialist movie they managed to paint the withdrawal of troops from foreign, “less advanced” lands as something lazy and vile, only because Loki was doing it.

Fuck Waititi and his imagined progressive views, his entire brand of wokeness falls apart at the first breeze.

Just
want to clarify: The anti-colonialism aspect of the movie was NOT that
director’s idea. The whole “Odin conquered the 9 realms and stuff”
sequence was not in the original cut and was in fact added during the
reshoot, and it’s  Disney/Marvel who decided to add this in, not that
director.   No need to credit the director for this. Does he even look
like he could come up with this?  He doesn’t seem to have any brilliant
ideas other than making up some jokes related to human private parts.

😂 This.

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pennie-dreadful:

veliseraptor:

projectprotectloki:

palladicannoneaccesa:

Tom Hiddleston in ‘The Avengers’, (2012). Dir. Joss Whedon.

That first gif!! One of my favorite Loki moments.

#i cant believe that this was anything other than a genuine moment of doubt and clarity #and a desire to do exactly what thor is saying stop this and go home (via @bereft-of-frogs)

YEEEESSSSS excellent tag commentary, I feel that up until that point Loki was so caught up in playing the part he’d been given, knowing it was probably futile but not having any other options but to keep going forward, but in this moment he realizes that this is all real, that however inferior he might think humans are, he would not have normally wanted to subjugate them or hurt them, and that he is hurting them. I think this is the tiniest flare of remorse, before he snuffs it out, because it’s them or him.

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iamanartichoke:

Hey, remember how when the Red Skull held the Tesseract directly in his bare hand, he, like, disintegrated or got sucked into space or something, the implication being that the Tesseract was just too powerful to be held in one’s hands? 

Remember how when Loki held the Tesseract directly in his bare hand, he might as well have been holding a roll of toilet paper, for all the damage it did him?

I just think about that sometimes.